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Today we're going to talk about one especially deceitful figure that the January 6th Committee

focused on John Eastman and the single most effective piece of evidence against him.

And I interview Barat Ramamoredie, the deputy director of the National Economic Council

about the possibility of a recession, the causes of inflation, the deal with gas prices

and why they're so high, really one of the most informative interviews I've ever had.

I'm Brian Teller Cohen and you're listening to No Lie.

So we've now gotten through three of the January 6th Committee hearings.

I just have to say right off the bat that these hearings are remarkably well done.

Like with January 6th, we're talking about something that happened just last year and

was I believe the most documented attack in this nation's history.

It would have been so incredibly easy for these hearings to just turn into a regurgitation

of what we all lived through and what we saw during Trump's second impeachment trial.

That was my worry going into this.

Instead, effectively everything has been not only new but perfectly laid out and direct

and deliberate and clear and concise.

I'm not a lawyer and these hearings aren't intended for lawyers.

They're intended for all of us and laid out in a way that everyone can understand.

So I know that the conventional wisdom is that Congress is an apt but this committee absolutely

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