January 12th - The pitfalls of "Sixth Freedom" flying
Simon Calder's Independent Travel Podcast
The Independent
3.6 • 628 Ratings
🗓️ 12 January 2024
⏱️ 8 minutes
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Summary
Airlines offer some great deals for flying from outside their home nation, via their home nation, to somewhere else outside their home nation. This is known as "Sixth Freedom" flying. But beware: even though British Airways is offering some amazing deals for Dublin-London-New York flights, you can't simply get on (or off) at London and leave out the Irish connections.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to today's independent travel podcast with me Simon Calder on Friday the 12th of January. |
| 0:12.4 | Today I am going to be rivetingly interesting. Well, you'll be the judge of that, about sixth freedom flying. |
| 0:20.7 | What it is, how you can benefit from it and how you definitely |
| 0:24.3 | can't benefit from it okay sixth freedom flying very simply means that an airline has the right |
| 0:32.8 | to fly people from somewhere outside its home country via its home country to another country. |
| 0:40.4 | And a perfectly good example is from Dublin to London Heathrow on British Airways and from |
| 0:46.9 | there onwards to New York. That is Sixth Freedom Flying under the terminology adopted by the International Civil Aviation |
| 0:57.8 | Organization. |
| 0:59.8 | Now, airlines are very keen to offer competitive Sixth Freedom flights. |
| 1:07.7 | So, for example, if you are British Airways and you want to fill up some of your |
| 1:13.5 | empty seats, because you know you're going to have some, between Dublin and Heathrow, and also |
| 1:18.5 | between London and New York, then you might well think, okay, how are we going to do this? I know |
| 1:25.6 | we will allow some of these seats to be sold at a really |
| 1:30.6 | good low rate so that people in Dublin who are thinking I've got to get to New York, they're going |
| 1:39.2 | to look and they think, okay, well I could go non-stop on Delta or Aer Lingus or United. |
| 1:46.1 | Or I could go on this longer trip, which actually means flying across to London and then flying back over Ireland on the way to New York. |
| 1:55.6 | But look at the deal, I'll get and also, by the way, get some useful avios points and some Tia points for loyalty schemes. |
| 2:03.9 | So that's great. |
| 2:05.1 | And the airline will tune its fares so that it kind of maximizes the seat it fills and gets as much business as it can. |
| 2:15.5 | Now, this is a real life example because, and the reason I'm talking to |
| 2:20.2 | you about it today, head for points, the very good frequent flyer website, was so worthwhile |
| 2:25.7 | signing up for their daily newsletter, or rather, news stories that will appear in your inbox |
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