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On Being with Krista Tippett

Janna Levin — Mathematics, Purpose, and Truth

On Being with Krista Tippett

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Society, Spirituality, Society & Culture, Sociology, Culture, Science, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Social Sciences, On Being, Arts

4.710.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2014

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

An astrophysicist who studies the shape of the universe, Janna Levin has also explored her science by writing a novel about two pivotal 20th-century mathematicians, Kurt Gödel and Alan Turing. Both men pushed at boundaries where mathematics presses on grand questions of meaning and purpose. Such questions, she says, help create the technologies that are now changing our sense of what it means to be human.

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Let's say somebody said that they had a belief system in which it was simply

0:03.6

positive that carbon came out of, I don't know, a blue sky one day. That wouldn't

0:08.7

make me feel any more meaning about who I was in the world. It feels much richer

0:14.3

to me to imagine that a cold empty cosmos collapses with stars and stars burn

0:20.7

and shine and they make carbon in the cores and then they throw them out again

0:24.0

and that carbon collects and forms another planet, another star and you know

0:29.0

acids evolve and then human beings arise. I mean that's to me a really beautiful

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narrative.

0:35.0

Gen. 11 is a theoretical physicist who studies the shape of the universe and

0:39.6

whether it is finite or infinite and she's a physicist who's also explored her

0:45.0

science by way of a novel of ideas. Her novel a madman dreams of churring

0:50.0

machines centers on the lives and ideas of two pivotal 20th century mathematicians

0:55.3

Kurt Gurdell and Alan churring. Churring is known as the father of modern

1:00.1

computing. Gurdell shook the worlds of mathematics, philosophy and logic showing

1:05.6

that some mathematical truths can never be proven. Both pushed at boundaries where

1:11.4

mathematics presses on grand questions of meaning and purpose. Such questions

1:17.1

helped create the technologies that are now changing our sense of what it

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means to be human. I'm Chris to tip it and this is on being.

1:28.2

Gen. 11 is a professor of physics and astronomy at Barnard College. I interviewed

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her in 2007 after the release of her novel. Many people talk about childhood as

1:39.2

a time when we all start to ask for the first time we ask these great

1:43.6

existential questions like how did how did this all happen how did we get here

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