From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is The Business.

Filmmaker Jane Schoenburn's first feature,

We're All Going to the World's Fair,

premiered to critical acclaim at Sundance in 2021.

The filmmaker capitalized on the moment to set up their next project,

with Emma Stone and husband Dave McCarrie producing.

I guess I've learned that the industry is called like a competitive situation in that multiple

people are sort of vying to do it.

So you've got some heat behind you and that obviously allows you to negotiate.

In my case, that was like very much about like negotiating for creative autonomy.

Jane Schoenbrun talks about how growing up in the suburbs was the

inspiration for the sinister setting in their 824-backed film, I saw the TV glow. The filmmaker

also shares why the nuances of gender and identity play a major role in their work and how they

realized they were trans after taking a mushroom trip with friends.

But first we banter. Stick around. It's the business from KCRW.

I'm joined by my partner in banter. Matt Bellany. Hello, Matt. Hi there. So you are coming to us

from New York this time because you were at the up fronts.

I used to go and you didn't.

Now you're there and I'm not.

You got the better end of that arrangement, I think.

It may be true.

So this is when all these, I used to say networks.

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