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The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

Jane Muncke: "Perils of Plastic Packaging"

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

Nate Hagens

Science, Earth Sciences, Natural Sciences

4.8553 Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2024

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

On this episode, toxicology scientist Dr. Jane Muncke joins Nate to discuss the current state of food production and the effects of ultra processed foods and their packaging on our health. Over the last century processed food has taken over our supermarkets and our diets, and at the same time the containers they're sold in have evolved as well - to be more eye-catching and keep food 'good' for longer. But what have we sacrificed in exchange for efficiency, ease, and convenience? How do the chemicals used in packaging and processing transfer into the food we eat and subsequently end up in our bodies? Will switching away from these toxic food practices require more local food supply chains - and correspondingly simpler diets and lifestyles?

About Jane Muncke

Jane Muncke holds a doctorate degree in environmental toxicology and a MSc in environmental science from the ETH Zurich. Since 2012 she has been working as Managing Director and Chief Scientific Officer at the charitable Food Packaging Forum Foundation (FPF) in Zurich, Switzerland. FPF is a research and science communication organization focusing on chemicals in all types of food contact materials. She is a full scientific member of the Society of Toxicology (SOT), the Society for Environmental Chemistry and Toxicology (SETAC), the American Chemical Society (ACS) and the Endocrine Society. Since 2019, she has been an elected expert member of the Swiss Organic Farming Association Bio Suisse's committee on trade and processing where she contributes to further developing the standards for processing and packaging of organic food. She is a director of the FAN initiative, a collective of experts warning about resource overshoot, the polycrisis, and related societal collapse.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/I2-roqSWjFo 

More info, and show notes: https://www.thegreatsimplification.com/episode/104-jane-muncke 

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to the Great Simplification.

0:05.0

I'm Nate Higgins.

0:06.0

On this show, we describe how energy, the economy, the environment, and human behavior all fit together and what it might mean for our future.

0:15.0

By sharing insights from global thinkers, we hope to inform and inspire more humans to play emergent roles

0:22.5

in the coming great simplification.

0:28.0

I am pleased to welcome my friend Jane Munker to the podcast.

0:33.0

Jane is the chief scientific officer and managing director of the food packaging forum in Zurich,

0:40.7

Switzerland. Jane holds a doctorate degree in environmental toxicology and a master's in

0:46.6

environmental science from the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. If you recall from a month or so

0:52.8

ago, Jeremy Grantham on this show said that he believes

0:57.0

toxics, especially endocrine-disrupting chemicals, are a larger threat to humanity's future than climate change.

1:04.0

Quite a big statement.

1:06.0

Jane and I unpack this as it pertains to food, how we heat our food, the chemicals in the plastics

1:13.9

that are in the packaging in our food, fruits and vegetables that are sprayed, and how this story

1:22.6

is still underground and is starting to percolate into more people's awareness.

1:29.6

Please welcome Jane Munker.

1:49.6

Hi, Jane. Great to see you. Hi, Nate. Thanks for having me.

1:56.3

How are you, my friend? I'm good. I'm good. It's busy times, but I'm excited to chat with you today.

2:04.9

So let's start at the top. If you include Jeremy Grantham, whose episode will be out, I think, next week or the week after,

2:14.2

you will be my fifth guest on the program to talk about plastics and their impact on humans and the natural world.

2:17.2

That's a pretty large amount of coverage for this topic

2:21.8

that a lot of people are unaware of and you and I have a lot of colleagues and

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