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🗓️ 25 November 2025
⏱️ 70 minutes
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What if the moment your life collapses is not the end of your story, but the beginning of your becoming?
In this intimate, live-recorded episode of Passion Struck, host John R. Miles sits down with Jane Marie Chen, global humanitarian, cofounder of Embrace (the infant warmer that has saved more than 1 million premature babies), and author of the stunning new memoir Like a Wave We Break.
Filmed in front of an audience at the Oxford Exchange in Tampa, this conversation dives beneath Jane’s public achievements to reveal the deeply human story she has never told on stage. It is a story of childhood trauma, a decade-long mission that consumed her identity, the burnout that nearly shattered her, and the healing journey that helped her rediscover who she truly is.
This episode continues our acclaimed series The Irreplaceables. It is a journey into the traits no machine can replicate, including resilience, tenderness, reinvention, and the courage to belong to yourself again.
If you have ever felt crushed by expectations, lived for others at your own expense, or struggled to understand your own worth, this conversation is a lifeline.
Get the full episode show notes here: https://passionstruck.com/letting-go-and-becoming-your-true-self/
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Available now at TheIgnitedLife.net. It includes reflection prompts, identity-reconstruction exercises, and Internal Family Systems tools to help you reconnect with your inner self.
In this episode, you will learn:
• How childhood trauma shaped her identity as a high achiever and helper
• Why unresolved pain often drives our desire to save others
• The hidden emotional cost of heroism
• What really happened behind the scenes of Embrace, and why success without inner grounding almost destroyed her
• How meditation, Internal Family Systems, and psychedelic therapy opened her back to herself
• The truth she finally discovered: We are not the wave. We are the ocean beneath it
• How to surrender without giving up
• How to rebuild purpose after a public or private collapse
• How to finally come home to yourself
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| 0:43.8 | I finally connected the dots. |
| 0:51.0 | Feeling so powerless through my childhood, that's what had driven me to want to help the most powerless people in the world. |
| 0:53.3 | I had not made that connection before. |
| 0:57.3 | So my pain had become my purpose. |
| 1:00.4 | But it was also my shadow, because it led me to working |
| 1:05.4 | in very unhealthy ways, as I said, to the point of just |
| 1:09.0 | complete burnout, because I also believe that my worth |
| 1:13.5 | depended on what I achieved. So it wasn't just like the passion and the urgency, but there was |
| 1:18.8 | this whole thing where my worthiness and sense of enoughness was tangled up in achievement. |
| 1:26.7 | Welcome to Passionstruck. I'm your host, John Miles. This is the show where we explore |
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| 1:37.7 | I sit down with change makers, creators, scientists, and everyday heroes to decode the human |
| 1:42.9 | experience and uncover the tools that help us lead |
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