Welcome to Spirits Podcast episode 64, Jane Eyre with Vanessa Zaltan. I never thought that would be a title of one of our

I know, I know. So listen, guys, it's a little bit different. We are talking today about a personal mythology, a text that has like had a lot of meaning to our guest, Vanessa, has really shaped her life, mine too. And kind of the ways in which we construct our personal mythologies around the stuff that we love.

And also the ways in which Jane Eyre itself is like a mythological text.

Right. And that makes total sense because if you don't know Vanessa's name just from us talking about it.

I have good news for you. There's a new podcast you love.

She is one of the co-hosts of Harry Potter and the sacred

text, which takes each chapter of Harry Potter and treats it like a sacred text, like the Bible

or Quran, any sort of sacred text that one would take lessons from by reading. Yeah. So,

like, how do we read this text as an instruction for life? And so they

read basically each chapter through a lens of like humility and loneliness and love, commitment,

all of the sort of, I don't know, like for someone like, you know, us who loves Harry Potter and

we'll take any excuse to revisit the books, it's delightful to, for example, experience them

through the eyes of a newbie

in Mike Schubert in Potterless, which I recommend everybody subscribe to. But also having this really

specific literary, you know, textual analysis, it's like college all over again in the very best way.

And I love it so much. But even if you're not a like religious person, if you're not a literary

person, if you're not a literary person,

if you're not a school person, you're just very thoughtful and insightful. It's very thoughtful, very

insightful. And Vanessa is a delight. Harry Potter and the sacred text, again, subscribe to it. It's

excellent. They're in God Blot of Fire right now. There's a lot for you to catch up on. But I'm really stoked about it. And we're going to just blast to the rest of this intro so you guys can get to the good, good interview. Uh, you know who else is good good good? Uh, I bet it's our

newest patrons. It is. Tell us about them. Oh, well, we would love to welcome our newest patrons,

Kelsey, Ida Maria, Tabra Maria, and Brenton. Welcome to the family. Welcome. And additionally,

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