I don't know I just think for for me I just like to be authentic because I want to I want to tell people

out there that are following me that have followed me from the beginning is that you're not alone

and things that you go through you're not alone and having a bad day you're not alone in the things that you go through. You're not alone and having a bad day. You're not alone and having miscarriages. You're not

alone and having you know a broken marriage or so it's like just taking people on the journey together and it helps me not feel alone when someone reaches out to me and says hey I'm going through this how did you get past this like oh let me help you because this is what worked for me

My guest today was an influencer

before she even knew what influencing was.

She is one of my dear friends.

If you follow me on Instagram,

you've probably seen us at the beach together or with our kids together or just

hanging out with a glass of wine. Now Miss Janet Kramer can literally do it all.

She's an actress, a singer, a podcast host, a wife, a mom, a successful entrepreneur,

so many other things coming down the pipeline for this one.

Now, you may remember her from her time on that super popular TV show called One Tree Hill or from her

successful country music career. She and her husband Mike also host the

wildly successful podcast Wind Down on Janet Kramer at I Heart Radio, and if you don't know how

we met, well then you have to keep listening because it's a really fun story and

some may even say it's kind of weird and strange. But we think it's

pretty amazing and with a really beautiful and healthy message of healing. So

let's dive in but before that I've got to give a shout out really quick to Miss

Independent Brand and she says this podcast gives me so much a great tactical and

mindset strategies to grow my brand and improve my content.

I was recommended to listen to this podcast by a friend and now it's the only

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