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January 20th, but the certification happened today. I'll reflect on the momentous significance

of January 6th, 2025 by also flashing back to January 6, 2021.

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Just a few minutes ago, Donald Trump was certified officially as the 47th president of the United States,

just a momentous development, one that would seem far-fetched even impossible.

Not just four years ago on January 6th of 2021, but maybe even a

year ago, maybe even nine months ago, this would have seemed like a very tall hill to climb.

And yet here we are.

I want to talk about the significance of this

kind of January 6th of 21 versus January 6th of 25. Before I do, just a couple of thoughts about

this past weekend, Debbie and I made our way to Washington, D.C., and it was really fun.

We were just there for Brandon Gill's swearing in, and there was a good deal of anticipation,

not because of Brandon per se, but because of the selection of the speaker of the house,

Mike Johnson.

Now, we got to sit in the gallery,

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