Jan. 6 Hearing: People Who Believed Trump Face Consequences. So Far, Trump Doesn't.
The NPR Politics Podcast
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🗓️ 13 July 2022
⏱️ 18 minutes
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Summary
It also featured testimony from Stephen Ayres, a former Ohio factory worker, who said he stormed the Capitol after President Trump suggested it because he believed Trump's claims that the election had been stolen.
And: President Trump attempted to call a witness in the Jan. 6 investigation following the last hearing on June 28 with Cassidy Hutchinson, the committee said.
This episode: White House correspondent Tamara Keith, congressional reporter Claudia Grisales, and justice correspondent Ryan Lucas.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. |
| 0:07.0 | It is 5.43 pm on Tuesday 12 July. |
| 0:11.5 | I'm Tamar Keith. |
| 0:12.5 | I cover the White House. |
| 0:13.5 | I'm Claudette Gryssellef, I cover Congress. |
| 0:15.6 | I'm Ryan Lucas. |
| 0:16.6 | I cover the Justice Department. |
| 0:18.0 | At today's January 6th Committee hearing, testimony from a capital insurrectionist, Stephen |
| 0:23.4 | Ayers. |
| 0:24.4 | He came to see then President Trump speak at the stop the steel rally at the ellipse. |
| 0:29.5 | He believed the President when he said the election was stolen. |
| 0:32.9 | He marched on the Capitol after President Trump's call to do so. |
| 0:36.8 | And he was one of the hundreds like him who faced consequences for it. |
| 0:41.0 | He pled guilty to disorderly conduct. |
| 0:43.7 | I lost my job, sold my house. |
| 0:46.9 | So I mean, it definitely, it changed my life, you know, not for the good. |
| 0:52.7 | Definitely not for the, you know, for the better. |
| 0:55.4 | Claudia and Ryan a lot happened today, but I'd like to start with his testimony. |
| 1:00.3 | It is a fresh reminder that so far for all of the actions that President Trump took, for |
| 1:04.9 | all of the actions that those around him took, it's just people like Stephen Ayers, a former |
| 1:11.8 | cabinet factory worker from Ohio who faced consequences, who faced legal consequences |
| 1:16.8 | for what happened on and before January 6th. |
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