Jamin and Ann Rowan: Becoming Saints

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Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

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🗓️ 24 September 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Throughout history and across religious traditions, countless individuals have been honored for their holiness and devotion. As members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we have this word in the name of our church—it is what we purport to be. But do we fully understand what that entails? Jamin and Ann Rowan recently led a study abroad trip exploring what it means to be and become a saint and on this week’s episode, they share what they learned.

2:20- A Study Abroad They Couldn’t Refuse
12:07- Peacemakers Needed Everywhere
22:15- The Sacrifices Saints Have Made To Follow Christ
26:34- Unreasonable Hospitality
33:55- Mission Calls Centuries Apart
38:10- Coming Back and Trying Again
39:59- Martyrs
42:41- The Magic of Real Places and Real Stories
46:23- President Hinckley’s Mission Letter
52:07- Modern Latter-day Saints in Europe
57:55- The Power of Storytelling
1:04:12- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

“These differences within our families—our immediate families and within our larger human family—are what help us become like God is. We have to come in contact with people that are different than us and listen with those ears of the heart and learn to love each other better...” -Ann Rowan

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0:00.0	If you are like me and you are a Sharon UBank fan girl, I've got an exciting opportunity for you.
0:06.6	This year, Sharon UBank is the keynote speaker at Lift Up Your Heart, a Magnify event.
0:12.1	It's a chance to hear from Sharon in person up close and as powerful as ever with her incredible insight that we all wish we had.
0:20.4	Please bring the women you know, your sisters, mothers, daughters, and friends
0:24.5	and spend a meaningful girls' day at Lift Up Your Heart.
0:28.2	You'll leave feeling restored, refilled, and re-centered on Christ.
0:32.2	The date is Saturday, October 25th, at Mountain America Expo Center in Sandy, Utah, and all women, 16 and older,
0:40.5	are invited to attend.
0:41.9	Visit magnifythegood.com for all the details and to register.
0:47.8	What does it mean to be and become a saint?
0:51.4	This was the question, Jamin and Anne Rowan, along with Latter-day St.
0:55.6	author and professor John Hilton III, sought to help BYU students answer as they guided
1:01.7	them through Italy, Northern Ireland, and England over the course of a six-week study abroad
1:06.9	trip. According to the trip description, their hope was that if immersed in the lives and
1:12.7	lessons of early Christians, holy people from various faith traditions, and modern saints,
1:18.7	they would have experiences that would deepen their understanding of how believers from different
1:24.1	cultures in both the past and present have practiced faith, experienced spirituality,
1:29.8	and pursued discipleship.
1:32.3	I don't know about you, but to me, this trip sounded incredible, and I figured if I couldn't
1:37.8	go, getting to hear Jamin and Ann's experiences might be the next best thing.
1:45.0	Jamon and Ann Rowan are both employed by Brigham Young University,
1:48.9	Jamin as the American Studies Program Coordinator and Anne as the Education and Programs Manager
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