Welcome to an excerpt about the Snacky Benjamin Show. I'm Joe Saul Seehi.

We had a fantastic discussion recently with Jamie Wise from Buzz Indexes and Phil back from a CSI funds.

We talked about the future of active investing.

You know the type of investing where instead of indexing

traditionally you've hired a manager and they use some data, but in the end they end up making the decisions themselves.

So human makes the decisions.

Jamie and I'm

I'm so excited about how change is a common.

And I'm so excited about this segment.

I've been waiting all week to interview these guys.

Coming down to the basement right now, first of all, he speaks

often about ETFs and now they're created. He formerly was the head of ETF listings

at the New York Stock Exchange, but today we're interested in his fund, the American

customer satisfaction core alpha E.T.F. ticker symbol A.C.S.I.

He's Ann Arbor-based.

Welcome Phil Beck to the basement.

How are you, man? Good, thanks, Joe. How are you man?

Good, thanks Joe. How are you?

Well, I'm good until I said that you're from Ann Arbor and then I think I might have to disown you a little bit.

Well, luckily we've got a lot of Michigan state representation on our team as well.

That is good.

You told me that earlier and tell you you've got what, three or four Michigan state people.

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