You're listening to The Great Simplification with Nate Higgins.

That's me.

On this show, we try to explore and simplify what's happening with energy, the economy,

the environment, and our society.

Together with scientists, experts, and leaders, this show is about understanding the bird's-eye view of how everything fits together, where we go from here and what we can do about it as a society and as individuals.

Today we talk with my friend Jamie Weill.

Jamie is a leading expert on the neurosomatics

of ultimate human performance and in that role is the executive director of the Flow

Genome Project. Jamie is also an author, educator, and Backwoods Expeditionary Leadership Coach,

helping humans live up to their potential in this transitional

time. Jamie and I talk about the evolutionary importance of music as a coping mechanism,

how our current university system in the USA is failing and doesn't prepare students for the coming

decades, and how to find hope during this time of tumult.

Jamie is quite a character and a super good person.

I hope you enjoy this week's wide-ranging conversation.

The Jamie, my friend, how are you?

Doing well, man.

So you don't know this story, but the first time that I heard of your name was when I was writing a college textbook for my Reality 101 class about the interconnection of money and energy and climate change.

And I wanted to call it stealing fire because it meant that we're stealing fire from future

generations.

And I Googled it.

And then your name came up and I was like, oh, crap, that book has already been written.

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