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Hey everybody, we have an amazing one.

For once.

Actually, that's not true.

We've had some amazingly bad ones in the past and you know, now that I think about it quite recently, actually.

But this one really great.

Representative Jamie Rask and joined me a few days ago.

The third term Democrat from Maryland.

Lead the nine member team of the House impeachment managers.

Of course, is the second impeachment the one after the January 6th insurrection.

We spoke about all that and his very personal journey following the tragic death of a

son Tommy Bryant kid, Harvard Law School graduate took his life after a long struggle with the

depression and that was just six days before the storming of the Capitol.

Jamie wrote an extraordinary memoir about this this period from Tommy's death through the impeachment trial.

Wrote it during a lot of sleepless nights.

The book is unthinkable, trauma, truth and the trials of democracy.

And MSNBC is premiering the documentary about Jamie this Sunday, the day that this podcast actually drops.

We talk about the book and the doc.

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