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The Al Franken Podcast

43: Heather McGhee on Critical Race Theory & Other Stuff

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4.67.7K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2022

⏱️ 60 minutes

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My favorite guest - (sorry, other guests)

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody, a great, great one today for only the second time. Heather McGee is with me.

0:12.3

The first great, great one was my first podcast with Heather. It was on her brilliant book,

0:18.6

The Some of Us, which is just out in paperback.

0:21.6

The Sum of Us is a beautiful, powerful book about a lie and a truth.

0:28.2

The lie is the one that the powerful, wealthy, white establishment has been telling poor

0:33.2

and working class white folks forever that whatever helps black people hurts white people.

0:40.4

The better blacks do, the worse whites do.

0:43.5

That our economy, that cultural status is all a zero-sum game.

0:48.8

That's the lie.

0:49.6

The truth is, and Heather's training is as an economist, the truth is that we're all in this together.

0:56.4

As my friend Paul Wellstone used to say, we all do better when we all do better. Hence,

1:02.2

the title of this, and I can't say this enough, this powerful, brilliant book, The Sum of Us,

1:07.3

the Some of Us. And in the paperback, in an afterward, Heather gets into critical race theory.

1:14.4

Critical race theory is an academic and legal framework that a few legal scholars in the late

1:21.6

70s started working on to explain why the civil rights victories of the 60s hadn't yield more progress

1:29.4

for black Americans in economic gains, in education, housing, health care, and employment.

1:36.8

Critical race theory recognizes that racism is more than the result of individual bias and prejudice.

1:44.5

It is embedded in laws and policies and institutions that uphold and reproduce racial inequalities.

1:54.3

The term critical race theory has been co-opted by Republicans as a catch-all and rallying cry to silence any discussions

2:03.8

about systemic racism, ban the truthful teaching of American history, and reverse progress

2:13.4

toward social justice, and it has become a political weapon.

2:18.3

Glenn Yonkin won the governor's race in Virginia last year by pledging to end the teaching of

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