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Jamie Metzell's here former member of the WHO, advisory committee, former National Security

Council official in the Clinton administration, and author of the book Super Conververgence, How the Genetics, Biotech, and AI Revolution will transform

our lives, work, and world.

A long-time Democrat, Jamie Metz, welcome back.

Thanks so much, Brian.

Really happy to be here.

You didn't mention a longtime friend of this show.

Absolutely.

I should bring that up.

Ukraine-Russia War. Where do you think we're out right now?

I'm really worried. I mean, certainly, you have been a very strong and vocal supporter of the Ukrainians.

I have been so as well. What they have done is heroic.

We all recognize that after three years, this war is at a stalemate, and the president of the United States should play an important role in bringing it to an end.

So I don't have any problem with the United States playing that role.

It could be that President Trump has some kind of secret plan, and there are things that are happening underneath that I don't see.

But from what I've seen so far, I'm concerned.

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