Jamey Johnson on "It Always Will Be"
One by Willie
John Spong
4.6 • 898 Ratings
🗓️ 25 March 2026
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
Million-selling country star Jamey Johnson, one of the finest singer-songwriters alive and a man generally considered the walking embodiment of Outlaw Country, talks on the title-cut to Willie’s 2004 album, It Always Will Be. The song’s a simple, hymn-like ballad, and maybe not the first thing you’d think of when Outlaw comes up, but that will change when Jamey explains what the term—and this wonderful song—mean to him. From there he describes poker, chess, and domino games; huge figures in Willie’s life, like longtime stage manager Poodie Locke and legendary songwriter Hank Cochran; and what Willie means to him, both as a friend…and as an example of how to live your life.
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| 0:20.2 | Hey there, I'm John Spong, and this is One by Willie, a podcast in which I talk each week to one notable Willie Nelson fan about one Willie |
| 0:29.1 | song that they really love. This week, we talked to Jamie Johnson, one of the finest singer-songwriter's |
| 0:35.5 | alive, and a man generally regarded as the modern-day embodiment of Outlaw Country, |
| 0:40.3 | about the title cut to Willie's 2004 album, It Always Wille Will be. |
| 0:45.3 | The song's a simple, heartfelt ballad, and maybe not the first thing you'd think of |
| 0:49.3 | when you hear the term Outlaw Country. |
| 0:51.3 | But that will all change when you hear Jamie's explanation of what that term |
| 0:55.9 | and what that wonderful song mean to him. |
| 0:59.1 | From there, Jamie ranges far and wide in thinking about his long friendship with Willie, |
| 1:03.8 | describing poker, domino and chess games, |
| 1:06.7 | big figures from Willie's life, like his longtime stage manager,outi Locke and legendary songwriter Hank Cochran, |
| 1:13.6 | and what Willie means to him, both as a friend and as an example of how to live your life. |
| 1:19.3 | It's a truly special conversation, and I think you're going to dig it. |
| 1:23.3 | So let's do it. |
| 1:26.1 | And it always will be. |
| 1:33.4 | And it always will be. |
| 1:40.6 | It always will be. |
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