Welcome back all the smoke season five Jack has been a nice three days.

That's the way to end it though. And we know we get strong three time NBA champ NCAA champ

finals MVP in 1988 Hall of Famer his team with the reason I fell in love with basketball

a lot of the show. Yeah James worthy. Appreciate you man. What a pleasure man. I love what

you guys are doing man and it's on to be here for real. Thank you. I mean speak to

me obviously the media crossover is prevalent now with former athletes but you kind of

did it when it wasn't as common you kind of worked your media you know your media journey

to what you're doing now but speak to how you're seeing more players kind of crossover

now and how important you feel that is. Yeah I think it's I think it's imperative for

those who are interested you know I wanted to do radio you know they always told me you

have the face for radio so I was like I was like so I was like you know I thought I

could do that but then coming in coming to Los Angeles you know being in the media you

know environment and it being a you know a lot of opportunities I got an opportunity

to to to work a game because Stu Lance was working with Chick Her and Stu had to go to

a funeral in his hometown so I replaced him and Sue Stratton who was the producer at the

time she says hey you know you have a future in there so every every since she told me

that that was a year after I retired and then I've always wanted to be in the media to

something exposure like radio or you know even you know investing in AM radio stations was

something I always you know thought about so but being in LA getting exposure I sucked at it

at the beginning because you know as an athlete you have the knowledge but then as you guys know

from taping and timing you know so it took me a while so I worked I worked the K-Cal 9 I worked

for the Seattle Supersonics with Kevin Calabro just trying to get on taping with yeah exactly

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