James Wigderson: From Paul Ryan to Paranoia

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The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

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🗓️ 10 August 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Ron Johnson keeps doubling down on all his crackpot ideas, but he couldn't have been handed a more ideal challenger — progressive Mandela Barnes. And the Wisconsin GOP goes MAGA in the governors' race. James Wigderson joins Charlie Sykes for a deep dive on Wisconsin politics. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Bullwork podcast. I'm Charlie Sykes. What is this day two of the post-Marl
0:13.2	Lago raid meltdown? We have a lot of coverage about that in the Bullwork. But I think that
0:19.2	today we are going to devote to a perhaps somewhat wonky insider inside too much inside baseball
0:27.2	analysis of my home state of Wisconsin. What happened here last night? The sort of head snapping
0:34.9	face turn of the Republican Party towards Maga or maybe not over the last six years and joining me
0:42.7	on today's podcast to do all of this is a guy who has been watching Wisconsin politics for a very
0:51.2	long time. I should ask you James how long it's been. James Wigderson took over for me as the
0:57.2	editor of Wright Wisconsin and now is the editor of his own new newsletter which you ought to
1:03.5	subscribe to call life under construction. James Wigderson from live from crucial Wakashaw
1:10.4	County, Wisconsin. Thanks for joining me this morning. Appreciate it. Oh thanks for having me
1:14.7	on Charlie. So I sat down this morning trying to figure out what to say about last night's primary
1:21.3	in Wisconsin because you know once again we have another Trump back candidate for governor that wins
1:25.6	and you know that fits into all these national narratives but you know what struck me was how
1:32.9	that illustrates how dramatically the Republican Party has changed in just six years because you and
1:38.0	I both remember back in the mists of time April of 2016 where Wisconsin Republicans they did not
1:47.8	buy what Donald Trump was selling. This was one of his worst and most embarrassing defeats. Wisconsin
1:52.8	Republicans were about as anti-Trump as any party in the country and then last night what happens
1:59.1	the Trump and Dors candidate for governor wins Trump and Dors obscure sort of batshit crazy
2:05.4	fringe candidate comes with an inches of ousting the sitting assembly speaker so this has been
2:13.1	a transformation and I was talking to another Republican this morning who was you know shaking
2:21.5	shaking his head about this and and he said that you know last night that everybody was texting
2:26.4	one another. Where did all the same people go and of course as you know what I said was welcome
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