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James White Refuted: Cosby Sweater Calvinism & Heated Debate with Protestant pt 2 - Jay Dyer

Jay'sAnalysis

Jay Dyer

Education, Comedy, Arts, Performing Arts

4.4902 Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2022

⏱️ 118 minutes

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Summary

Today we will have open forum debate and Q n A concerning philosophy and theology with a opening discussion on the Trinity and an overview of James White's significant errors. We look at his book Forgotten Trinity and the bad argumentation and acceptance of the Lombardian identity thesis view and how this ends up denying the distinctions in Persons and how the Calvinist doctrine of substitutionary atonement and "damning of the Son" is blasphemous and Anti-Trinitarian. The second half is largely a debate with a Protestant on sola scriptura who keeps repeating that the Bible itself tells him the canon.

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0:00.0

still be without his soul still be God I'm kind of I don't really know about it

0:05.1

formulate the question best but well the human nature is not God the reference to

0:10.0

God can pick out the divinity it can pick out the divine person it can pick about

0:15.1

pick out divine powers but we wouldn't say that the human nature itself is God so

0:20.4

that's why John Damascus says that the logosos is still the person to both the body and

0:24.9

the soul even when they're separated.

0:27.2

So the incarnate Christ always retains the properties that are, that the power is proper

0:35.0

to both natures, the human and the divine.

0:37.3

So there's no point at which he ceases to have divine power or ceases to have human power.

0:41.5

So he always retains those two natures and those two properties in union,

0:45.9

even when there's the separation of the soul from the body.

0:48.9

Is that helpful, or do you want to rephrase that question?

0:52.0

Yeah, that's pretty much answers the question. I'm just wondering, like, for the three days when the body was in the tomb, was that, that's still Jesus, the God man?

1:01.3

Well, if you look at that section in John Damascus, he says the Logos is still the person to both, even when the soul is separate from the body.

1:09.7

And the way that he's able to still be the one person to both the soul and the body is separate from the body, and the way that he's able to

1:10.9

still be the one person to both the soul and the body is because he's omniscient and

1:14.7

divine.

1:17.4

Yeah, that makes sense to me.

1:18.7

That answers the question.

1:19.3

Because he's omnipresent, because he's a divine person.

1:24.3

I know that makes sense.

1:26.4

Cool beans, dude.

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