No one can train you or get you prepared for having 15,000 people booing you while you're throwing for a large amount of money, a big title.

This is no exaggeration. I knocked the back wall off of my house.

So yeah, I got in the car with my dad and I went there and I just said, this is a load of, load of crap in it.

I said, what do you think? And he went, I just want my son back. And that was

yeah, that was the beginning of a journey. Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much, yeah. If you want to

be a mechanic, why don't you just go, why don't you stop piss bawling around and go back to being one?

You want the real truth? Because of the money. Because of the money. Yeah. And that's the real truth. This is up front with me, Simon Jordan.

I believe there are a lot of vacuous, uninformed, unchallenged opinions out there.

I want to get to the bottom line and cut through the nonsense.

So with this podcast with William Hill, I'm going to get people with strong views who

think they can stand them up to proper scrutiny.

There's a good chance I might learn something along the way, and more importantly, so might you.

Joining me today is one of the more iconic names in the modern darts era, a man that some

see as one of the greatest dance players who have never won a world championship, whilst others

consider him to be one of the best left-handed darts players of all time.

James Wade.

James, I was a great lover of darts.

I grew up watching darts in the Eric Bristow, Jockey Wilson era, and obviously the advent of.

I suppose the first superstar in darts was probably Eric Bristow.

And at the time, John Lowe and Leighton Reese and Cliff Lazarenko and all those sort of guys,

they were my heroes when I grew up watching Darts.

I saw watch it on a Saturday afternoon and I'd go up to my bedroom and play 501 or all around the world.

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