look at yourself and evaluate yourself and say, listen, these are the things that I don't want to live with.

People have to understand that whatever they're, whatever they're feeling, there's always a way out.

This is Design Matters with Debbie Millman from Design Observer.com.

For 14 years now, Debbie Millman has been talking with designers and other creative people

about what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about, and

working on. On this episode, designer James Victoria talks about leading a creative life.

If we look at our childhood, you've done the work already.

We're born wildly creative.

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We just need to recall it.

Here's Debbie, first with a word from our sponsors, then with the interview.

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