Donald Trump won because television changed.

Trump and TV, TV and Trump,

that's the subject of a brand new book

and the subject of this week's reliable sources podcast.

I'm your host Brian Stelter and this weekly podcast is our chance to go in depth with media

leaders and newsmakers talking about how the news gets made and how all of us can help make it better.

In the brand new book titled Audience of One, Donald Trump Television and The Fracturing

of America, James Poneoneoisic describes his revelations about Trump, well, that Trump is TV,

that Trump's political rise was, quote, the result of changes that I had been writing about as a TV critic for 20 years without

realizing how they were connected until they converged in him.

Pone was a day job is TV critic at the New York Times.

I think he's one of the most important critics

writing about television in America.

I thought that when he was at Time, now, at the New York Times.

And this book has so many revelations about Trump and TV, TV and Trump.

So let's talk about it.

Jim is here with me now in New York.

Thanks for joining me.

Congratulations on the book.

Thanks so much, Brian.

Thanks for having me. Why did you feel like you had to write this book?

Uh, because the guy from the apprentice became president.

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