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Socrates in the City

James Orr and Mary Harrington: Why Aristotle Would Disagree With Modern Politics

Socrates in the City

Socrates in the City

Society & Culture

4.7537 Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2026

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

In this Socrates Dialogues conversation with Mary Harrington, James Orr joins her as he traces his journey from the life of the mind to the heart of public affairs, reflecting on how a scholar becomes a political advisor without abandoning the pursuit of truth. Through this conversation, James Orr explores the meaning of scholasticism and its enduring influence, the shaping power of philosophy on the intellectual life of Europe, and the lasting political visions of Aristotle and Plato as they echo into modernity. Moving between the ancient and the contemporary, the abstract and the practical, the discussion wrestles with one of philosophy’s most enduring questions: the tension between existence and essence – and what it means for how we live, govern, and understand society today.

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0:00.0

Reality is discovered, not constructed.

0:03.3

Aristotle's politics is just taking reality at its word.

0:08.5

We may not like the fact that we are paired animals that are oriented towards the procreation of new life,

0:14.0

that we're vulnerable so that we need a community for our medium-term needs,

0:18.0

and we need a city-state for our long-term protective and productive

0:21.4

needs and so on.

0:22.4

But that's what it's like.

0:24.3

That's the way it is.

0:25.1

It's how we are.

0:26.1

Is this then the worldview which in its sort of pop idiocy's form cashes out as sex is a social

0:33.3

construct?

0:34.3

I think it's completely connected.

0:35.8

As the great Antienne Gilsson said,

0:39.0

Metaphysics always buries its undertakers.

0:43.9

Hello and welcome to Socrates' dialogues. I'm Mary Harrington. And today I have the great

0:49.1

privilege of being joined by James Orr, Associate Professor of Philosophy at Cambridge and a senior advisor to Nigel Farage.

0:56.9

Welcome, James. Great to be with you, Mary. And thank you for joining us today. So you have had

1:02.1

one of the more unusual career trajectories that I can think of to date, classics at Oxford,

1:07.7

and then a stint as a high-flying legal professional, followed by somehow

1:13.4

parlaying that into an equally stellar academic career in moral philosophy at the University

1:21.9

of Cambridge, until somehow politics came calling, as it very visibly and quite all-consumingly now has.

1:30.5

First, if I remember rightly, it was Brexit.

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