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original podcast. A bit of a departure on this week's full disclosure, because I am in the other chair being

interviewed by the magnificent Marie LeCont as opposed to asking the questions myself.

The reason for this departure is, I don't know whether you've heard me mention it on the

radio show, but I have a book out at the moment.

How not to be wrong, the art of changing your mind.

And that is pretty much the focus of this interview.

Normal full disclosure returns next week with Sam Gizi you've probably never heard of.

Goes by the name of Piers Morgan.

Hello. Thanks for joining us.

In the flesh.

So, while since we've done much in the flesh.

So exciting. No mask either. I just feel like, audience, of course. But equally, no masks and they're screamed. Exactly. But I actually kind of wanted to start by, I suppose, questioning the premise of the book, I suppose. Because, you know, your previous book was how to be right. This is how not to be wrong, sensing a bit of a pattern

emerging here. And so where, I mean, I guess, where has that obsession come from with being

right? So I know you mentioned in this book actually that you've done quite a sort of therapy

recently. Is this something that's come up? I saw like, on a nearly personal note, I suppose.

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