James McBride's new murder mystery digs into Black and Jewish communities in the '30s
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ποΈ 22 August 2023
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Linda Holmes. Welcome to NPR's Book of the Day. James McBride tackles a lot in his new novel, |
| 0:08.4 | The Heaven and Earth Grocery Store. It's a story about a neighborhood in Pots Town, Pennsylvania, |
| 0:13.3 | and the immigrant communities that are sharing space there in the 1930s. A couple named Moshe and Chona |
| 0:19.3 | own the grocery store that's in the title. |
| 0:22.1 | McBride tells NPR's Scott Detrow that Chona was inspired by his own grandmother and the difficult life she had. |
| 0:28.9 | I wanted my grandmother to have a better life, he says. |
| 0:32.3 | So I put her on the page and made her loved. |
| 0:35.1 | In the U.S., national security news can feel far away from daily life. |
| 0:39.9 | Distant wars, murky conflicts, diplomacy behind closed doors. |
| 0:44.4 | On our new show, Sources and Methods, NPR reporters on the ground bring you stories of real people |
| 0:49.8 | helping you understand why distant events matter here at home. |
| 0:53.8 | Listen to sources and methods on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:59.6 | James McBride's new novel, The Heaven and Earth Grocery Store, is a lot of things. |
| 1:04.2 | It's at the very beginning a bit of a who-done-it. |
| 1:06.8 | It's also a heist story and a love story. |
| 1:09.8 | But it's mostly a close look at a community |
| 1:12.0 | in Potsdown, Pennsylvania. At the heart of that community is a couple, Moshe and Chona, |
| 1:17.3 | Jewish immigrants who live in a poor neighborhood called Chicken Hill. |
| 1:20.4 | It was a perfect setting for where you put these people of different cultures in a place |
| 1:25.1 | and see what happens. And so Chicken Hill was the part of |
| 1:28.6 | town where blacks lived, Jews lived, white people, white people like, I don't know, Italians and Greeks |
| 1:35.7 | and Irish, who couldn't afford any better lived. And they all pretty much got along. |
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