This episode is brought to you by pop chips.

Do you ever find yourself deep in thought contemplating the contradictions of modern life?

Or is that just, is that just me?

Like a lot, a lot, an ever increasing amount recently, or is that?

But then you realize all you really need is something crunchy and full of flavor to pull you back to the moment.

Pop chips are the answer.

They're pop not fried, which means they've got all the taste, none of the greasy baggage.

Big flavour, check, light texture, double check.

And here's a beautiful collision of worlds.

Pop chips are rolling into the music scene with Tom Grenum showing up at Latitude and Isle of White this festival season.

This is a snack with rhythm and a crisp with culture.

Latitude was the first festival I ever played.

And I think I was eating, you know, a lot more greasy things at that point.

It was a long time ago what I wouldn't have given for a nice little pack of sour cream and onion pop chips.

That's my flavour in case you're wondering.

So if you're looking for your favourite podcast snack, pop chips have got your back.

Pick some up in store near you and make your everyday pop.

Emoclou, emmoclue, immoclue.

This is the distraction pieces rewind where every Friday we delve into the over a decade long back catalogue

and this week we're going back to 2017,

right at the start of 2017,

where I sat down with James McAvoy,

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