Walter Isakson set out to write about a world-changing genius in Elon Musk and found a man addicted to chaos and conspiracy.

I'm thinking it's idiotic to buy Twitter because he doesn't have a fingertip feel for social emotional networks.

The book launched a thousand hot takes,

so I sat down with Isakson to try to get past the noise.

I like the fact that people who say I'm not as tough on Musk

as I should be are always using anecdotes for my book to show why we should be tough on Musk.

Join me, Evan Ratliff, for On Musk with Walter Isickson.

Listen on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hello, I'm Chelsea Perretti. Do you feel chronic existential dread but love talking about

delicious snacks? Call me, my podcast is relaunching. Do you fear wild talking about

talking about delicious snacks, my podcast is relaunching.

Do you fear wild dangerous animals

to the point where you're constantly watching attack videos

and reading articles about wild animal attack survivors

or those who succumb to attack, call in.

We can also discuss reality shows and emergency room footage.

Listen to call Chelsea Perretia on Will Farrell's Big Money Players Network on the

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I'm Jacob Goldstein. I used to host Planet Money. Now I'm starting a new show.

It's called What's Your Problem. Every week on What's Your Problem,

entrepreneurs and engineers describe the future they're going to build once they

solve a few problems. I'm talking to people trying to figure out how to do

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