try that on. Go, go step into Steven Spielberg's directing chair and direct an Indian movie.

I said one more layer during a global pandemic, during a global pandemic. Um, but, uh, um,

somehow putting you to the test. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I'm still here. Prepare your ears, humans.

Happy, sad, confused begins.

Today on Happy, sad, confused, I'm Josh Horowitz and I'm welcoming one of my favorite

filmmakers to the podcast, the man who has never shied away from a challenge.

A Johnny Cash biopic. That's easy. Kill off Wolverine and earn the respect of the critics,

fans and the Academy. No problem. How about stepping into the shoes of the most celebrated

filmmaker ever to bid adieu to maybe the most iconic adventurer in all of cinematic history.

James Mangold is the man for the job and today his job is also to be on my podcast finally.

Jim, we did it. I hear there. Um, it's good to see you, man. Um, somehow you've,

you've alluded the podcast for a while, but I'm, I'm excited to have you and I'm doubly excited.

I've been alluding it. I've been unaware of my alluding. I've been living, I lived in England

and around the world for the last year and a half, making this huge and undertaking. So, uh,

it's all good. I've been giving you trouble. No, always forgiven. We get a chance to just talk

about Indiana Jones for about 45 minutes. That's a, that's not a tough day at the office. Um,

all right. So let's, let's just dig right into it, man. Um, you know, this, this task at hand

is a monumental challenge to say the least. What's it take to, to officially say yes?

So after you weigh all the options to say, I'm going to dive in. Is it a little insanity,

a little hubris, a little bit of like, wait, if I say no to this, I'm going to regret it the rest

of my life. Put me in your head a little bit. Well, when I first got contacted by Harrison

and Stephen and Kathy and this idea was first floated to me. Um, I was, of course, intrigued,

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