From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is the business.

I mean, you take 120 minutes, you take 45 of it for action.

What are you left with, divided by six characters?

You have the character arc of Elmer Fudd and a Warner Brothers cartoon.

Logan is James Mangold's second Wolverine movie and Hugh Jackman's last outing in the role.

So this time Mangold was determined to make something deeper and darker than a standard comic book film.

The seasoned filmmaker talks about fighting franchise fatigue, the worldwide casting search for a young Spanish-speaking mutant,

and why he's taken to Twitter to fight gossip about his movie.

But first on the news banter, we'll ask you one more time, Blue Pill or Red Pill.

Stay tuned, it's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by my colleague in banter, Matt Bellany, of the Hollywood reporter.

Hello, Matt.

Hi there.

So in the realm of highly controversial reboots or explorations of a world that was, Warner Brothers is looking into some kind of redo or exploration of the Matrix, which, as you well know, Matt, sacred.

The original Matrix, not so much the sequels, but the original Matrix absolutely sacred to a lot of fans.

Right. And that's the challenge when you are a movie studio in 2017, and you have a corporate responsibility to look at your

entire back catalog of titles for potential reboots and things to mine as intellectual property.

So the fans don't necessarily want it, but Warner Brothers is smart to absolutely want it because

if they can get the Matrix going again,

that could be a franchise that goes on and on and on.

Yeah, it's kind of a thing where they would have to involve, I think, the Wachowski siblings.

They were brothers when they did The Matrix, their sisters now.

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