James Kimmel Jr. (revenge and forgiveness expert)

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Umbrella

Tv & Film, Music, Comedy

4.6 • 68.3K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2025

⏱️ 129 minutes

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Summary

James Kimmel Jr. (The Science of Revenge: Understanding the World's Deadliest Addiction) is a lecturer at Yale University on forgiveness and revenge. James joins the Armchair Expert to discuss plotting his revenge against the other Jimmy Kimmel for months, wanting to grow up to become a farmer until he was bullied because of it, and how eerily close he came to an irreparable act of violence to even a score. James and Dax talk about becoming an attorney to get revenge legally and professionally, how justice-seeking blesses all manner of disastrous human impulses, and finding himself addicted to revenge. James explains by studying forgiveness he learned that any method of finding peace works, why people who are victimized have a powerful rumination on being heard, and roleplaying a functional process of litigation resolution.

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0:13.8	Welcome, welcome, welcome to armchair expert experts on expert.
0:16.8	I'm Dack Shepard.
0:17.9	I'm joined by Lily Padman.
0:19.3	Hi.
0:20.1	Confusing guests today.
0:21.8	Very.
0:22.9	Very confusing. James Kimmel Jr.
0:25.6	Not.
0:26.8	Not.
0:27.4	The son or father of Jimmy Kimmel.
0:31.2	Correct.
0:31.9	Yes. But do you know Jimmy Kimmel's already a junior?
0:35.2	Oh.
0:36.0	So he would have to be the third.
0:37.7	Oh. Okay. That's neither here nor there. James Kimmel's already a junior. Oh. So he would have to be the third. Oh.
0:38.3	Okay, that's neither here nor there.
0:40.1	James Kimmel, Jr. is a lecturer in psychiatry at the Yale School of Medicine, a lawyer
0:44.9	and the founder and co-director of the Yale Collaborative for Motive Control Studies.
0:50.2	His previous two books are suing for peace and the trial of fallen angels.
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