Welcome to the Bull Work Podcast, I'm Charlie Sights. It is September 12, 2003 and we have a lot of things to sort out. We are joined by our good friend James Holman, editorial writer and columnist for the Washington Post.

James, welcome back to the podcast.

Charlie, great to be with you.

Well, first of all, before we get into everything,

did you notice that the Packers beat the Bears over the weekend?

I just have to mention this again.

I did.

I'm actually, I'm going to be, uh, to watch the Packers play the Falcons in Atlanta this weekend.

Oh really? I'm jealous. I'm looking forward to it even we post Aaron Rogers new era.

I just wanted to take a moment the reason I bring this up I want to you

know take a moment thoughts and prayers to all you fans of the New York Jets that's all I

want to say there's no shot Freud, just thoughts and prayers for all you New York Jets fans.

Okay? So can we move on to the business at hand? Because I had to get that out of the way.

Let's talk about something less divisive, which is politics.

Yeah, so I'm looking at the headline in the NBC News website,

Kevin McCarthy faces a perfect storm of demands as shut down looms.

September 30th deadline, the House Speaker confronts right-wing demands to cut spending

migration, prop up Trump and impeach Biden with veiled threats to his gavel.

So here we have my Kevin once again, it kind of feels like Groundhog Day doesn't it?

Like, you know, Kevin McCarthy in a vice, how bad is this going to be?

How about that for a general question?

I think it is going to be bad, but I learned to kind of respect McCarthy's political skills during the speaker vote fight.

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