Dr. Craig, we've been looking at some video responses to the reasonable faith animated videos,

the Zangmaster videos, and we're going to look at another one today.

This is the animated video on the applicability of mathematics from Dr. James Franklin,

a retired professor of mathematics at the University of New South Wales.

Another one of those Australian smart guys, Bill, are you familiar with Dr. Franklin?

Yes, I am Kevin. In my work on divine assayity, I wanted to explore various alternatives

to platenism about mathematical objects. And one of the alternatives to platenism

would be to say that mathematical objects are not abstract objects as the platenist thinks,

but rather they are concrete objects. Now, if mathematical objects are concrete objects,

they could be either physical objects or they could be mental objects, thoughts in the mind,

either in human minds or in the divine mind. And this sort of conceptualism is probably

the most plausible form of mathematical realism, which takes these objects to be concrete mental objects.

But Franklin is one of the very few philosophers of mathematics who takes mathematical objects to

be concrete physical objects. And he defends this in his book, an Aristotelian

realist philosophy of mathematics, which I read in connection with my study of divine assayity.

It's a remarkable view. He thinks that mathematical objects are physical structures and entities

in the physical world, that they are not abstract, they are actually physical. And so that's

his Aristotelian philosophy of mathematics. It is fascinating. And he's going to get into that

just a little bit in this interview again from Jordan Hampton and his channel called The Analytic

Christian. Let's go to the first clip. Let me explain why there's a serious ambiguity in

Craig's argument. What exactly is the premise of his argument? Is it that mathematics is applicable

to the world at all? Or is it that the mathematical laws of physics are so precise? He does make both

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