Welcome to the Delling Pod with me, James Dellingpaw. And I know I always say I'm excited about this week's special guest, but I am so excited about this week's special guest. It is Jay Dyer. Now, some of you are going to be going, like who? And some of you are going, wow, you've got Jay Dyer on the show that is totally amazing so I'm really

looking forward Jay to going down the rabbit hole with you but before I do that

but before we do the introductions I want to cut to the chase and ask you a

question which is how totally screwed are we and is there any hope of salvation in this life? Or is it basically over

for Western civilization? I would say that maybe our best hope would be some kind of

collapse, as odd as that might sound, because I got asked, Alex asked me that same question yesterday.

He said, what's our hope here?

What's our answer?

I think that the system that they want to bring in is so fundamentally anti-human and in a way irrational.

I know that sounds odd given the fact

that it's kind of a technocracy,

but I think it's fundamentally anti-human and irrational.

And so I think that that might be the weak point

in what they're trying to bring in.

So as odd and contradictory as it sounds,

I would say, yeah, there is, there is hope.

Yeah. So by, by they, because I'm, I'm very conscious in the last, in the last 12 months,

I have, for want of a better phrase, gone down the rabbit hole in a way that pretty much every one of my, I used to,

I used to be in the mainstream media, I used to be, you know, respectable. And all my contemporaries

in journalism have, in UK journalism, have stayed respectable, is it respectable respectable they've been too frightened or too

uncurious maybe or too too keen to stay within the confines of the Overton window to career safe all

these for whatever reason they don't want to go where I do and I'm I'm conscious

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