James Comey on Spies, Surveillance and Seashells
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🗓️ 12 May 2026
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James Comey has been at the center of national news in recent weeks. But he also has a terrific new novel coming out and he joined us to talk about it.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Kevin, and today we will be speaking with former FBI director James Comey about his terrific new novel, Red Verdict. |
| 0:08.4 | And it is entirely possible that another new story that he's at the center of might come up a time or two. |
| 0:15.3 | Content warning, we will be getting into politics in this episode. |
| 0:18.8 | If that's going to make anyone freak out, just don't listen. |
| 0:21.7 | Or maybe do, because I actually think it's important for people to understand this, that there are |
| 0:26.5 | certain things that are simply wrong, and sometimes partisanship needs to be set aside. |
| 0:32.3 | Today, we're going to be speaking with former FBI director James Comey about his wonderful new novel, Red Verdict. |
| 0:39.4 | Listeners may recall that we've had Mr. Comey on the program three times previously to |
| 0:45.1 | speak about his fiction writing and his career. |
| 0:48.1 | We always really appreciate these conversations. |
| 0:52.1 | We would be remiss, however, if we did not mention the fact here at top |
| 0:56.1 | that Mr. Comey has recently found himself in the middle of a national news story. On April 28, |
| 1:03.7 | 2026, just a few days before we recorded this interview, the Justice Department announced that |
| 1:09.5 | Mr. Comey had been indicted. Back in May of 2025, |
| 1:14.6 | he had posted to Instagram a picture of seashells, which had been arranged to spell out |
| 1:20.5 | 8647. The Justice Department says that by doing so, Mr. Comey was threatening to do physical harm to President Donald Trump. |
| 1:30.3 | If you are a regular listener to our program, you will know we always say that it is important to wait for all evidence to come in before making a determination about a case. |
| 1:39.7 | But this is an instance where we believe we know enough to say that these are ridiculous charges. |
| 1:45.5 | No one seriously believes that Mr. Comey was making a threat to harm the president. |
| 1:50.8 | The charges only seem to have been filed because of President Trump's animosity towards Mr. Comey. |
| 1:57.8 | It is a misuse and a perversion of the Justice Department, and if this sort of thing is |
| 2:03.0 | allowed to succeed, then it will ultimately threaten the rights of anyone who wishes to speak out |
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