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The Dishcast with Andrew Sullivan

James Carville On Trump, Harris, Clinton

The Dishcast with Andrew Sullivan

Andrew Sullivan

Politics, News, Religion & Spirituality

4.6836 Ratings

🗓️ 30 August 2024

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Carville needs no introduction, but he’s a legendary consultant, a former CNN contributor, and the author of a dozen books. He currently co-hosts the Politics War Room with Al Hunt, a podcast available on Substack, which you should definitely follow for the election season.

For four clips of the highly quotable Carville — on Harris’ convention speech, Vance’s conversions, Bill Clinton’s “pussy business,” and woke condescension toward minorities — pop over to our YouTube page. Other topics: growing up in a poor town famous for its leprosy hospital; one of eight children in an “extremely” Catholic family; the vast majority of his peers were African-American; the woke left’s caricatured view of “the marginalized”; the flattening term “communities of color”; NPR; the misnomer “LGBTQIA”; the resilient old queens of the South; progressive orgs paralyzed by young woke staffers; the shocking strength of Harris’ acceptance speech; why masculine rhetoric is even more effective coming from a female pol; her immigrant background; her poor management of staff; how she needs to own up to her 2020 views and convey “growth”; the crime issue; the border crisis; Gaza; Starmer and “stability”; Carville leading Wofford to an incredible comeback in his Senate race; teaming up with Begala to guide Clinton to the White House; Bill’s profound charm and smarts; his Achilles heel; the sudden implosion of the Church in Ireland; the sex-abuse crisis; Spotlight; how the closet attracts predatory priests; Trump as the antithesis of a Christian; January 6; how Harris is focused on mockery rather than fear; how the race is now “fresh vs. stale”; how Biden was pushed out by big donors and Pelosi; how the timing turned out to be perfect for Harris; how she’s avoided the press longer than Palin did; how Walz is further left than Carville; Vance and “childless cat ladies”; common-good conservatism; the difference between cradle Catholics and converts; the Gospels; infallibility; Garry Wills’ influence; Trump thrilled by domination; the hatred of elites and foreign wars and offshoring; the snipes at Walz’s son; and Carville dealing with ADHD.

Browse the Dishcast archive for an episode you might enjoy (the first 102 are free in their entirety — subscribe to get everything else). Coming up: Eric Kaufmann on left-liberal excess, Michelle Goldberg on Harris, David Frum on Trump, Bill Wasik and Monica Murphy on animal cruelty, and Sam Harris for our quadrennial chat before Election Day. Please send any guest recs, dissents, and other comments to [email protected].

Transcript

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0:00.0

The Hey there. Welcome to the new season of the Dishcast, special in 2024 election season.

0:36.1

We have many people coming up on the dishcast.

0:38.9

Eric Kaufman's coming on to talk about the origins of liberalism and awokeness.

0:43.2

We've got Bill Wasek and Monica Murphy coming on to talk about the history of animal cruelty

0:47.6

and the resistance to it.

0:50.6

Michelle Goldberg is coming on for Harris.

0:52.9

David Frum is coming on to defend Harris as well and to talk about Trump.

0:59.0

And at some point we're going to get a Trump supporter to come on also.

1:02.8

But this week, I can't think of a better person to kick off our conversation about the campaign than James Carville.

1:09.8

And he basically needs no introduction.

1:12.7

Bill consultant, his whole life, former CNN contributor,

1:16.3

a author of a dozen books.

1:18.5

Now he has a podcast available on Substack.

1:21.6

It's called The Politics War Room with Al Hunt,

1:24.5

probably most famous for helping elect Bill Clinton, and one of the smartest and funniest

1:30.3

men in American political commentary.

1:32.9

Thanks so much for coming, James.

1:35.7

Tell me about Carville, the town you grew up in.

1:38.6

I mean, what would it like to be actually growing up in a town named after yourself?

1:43.9

Carville is about 17 miles south of Baton Rouge,

1:49.2

of Tiger Stadium, if you will. It's right on the Mississippi River. It's, when I grew up,

1:54.6

it was probably 80, 85 percent black. And its claim to fame was it was the home of the largest hospital of treatment for Hanson's

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