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The Bulwark Podcast

James Carville: Better Constipated than Evil

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 1 September 2022

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Come for the West Wing fantasy politics, stay for the Carville-isms, like: "Really stupid voters produce stupid candidates," "MAGA runs the show," and "If you're going to look at something 150 times a day, it might as well be pretty." James Carville joins guest host JVL today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Bullwark podcast. It's Thursday, September 1st. I'm Jonathan Last sitting

0:13.6

in for Charlie Sykes. He'll be back next week. I'm joined today by James Carville. You

0:19.2

know who he is. He's the guy who saved the Democratic Party in the early 1990s. He loves watches,

0:24.6

LSU football, and he co-hosts the politics podcast war room without hunt. We're going to talk

0:30.8

about the watch stuff later. James, welcome back to the show. How are you, buddy?

0:34.1

Well, I'm good. I'm good. Every time I reach something, you're right. I'm grateful, you know,

0:39.6

long, no, the side. That's very kind of you. It's amazing. There's sort of different culture

0:48.1

that the Bullwark types, but they look at what I've been dealing with my whole professional life.

0:58.8

It's a really constipated political party, but it's better to be constipated and be evil,

1:04.6

so even the choice I'll take that. That's, you know, that ought to be the tagline for the

1:07.9

Democrats. That's better constipated than evil. Let's start today out in the wilds of Alaska,

1:13.2

where Sarah Paylon has lost her special election. She was in a bid to fill the remainder of

1:19.8

the late Congressman Don Young's term. She was in a three-way run-off with the Democrat Mary Peltola,

1:25.6

who was an indigenous Alaskan and a Republican misdispending to Nick Begich. We have a rematch of this

1:32.1

coming in November, just like 10 weeks away. But what was interesting in this is, A, Alaskan now

1:38.4

has a Democratic Congresswoman, and B, we just road-tested the new ranked choice system.

1:45.8

I just want to set the table for people as they understand how this worked, because it's a little

1:50.9

bit crazy. What we had was, we had in the first round, the Democrat Peltola finished with 40% of the

1:58.3

vote. She was about 16,000 votes ahead of Paylon, who was in second, as they went through the

2:04.8

subsequent rounds of the ranked choice voting. Begich was eliminated, because he was in third.

2:11.7

Half of his voters had Paylon as their number two choice. 21% didn't list a second choice,

2:18.6

and 29% ranked Peltola over Paylon. That's why she is now the Democratic Congressman.

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