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Hello and welcome to the Bullwork Podcast. I'm Tim Miller in for Charlie Sykes. Still on

that very well-deserved vacation. Today I got a special double episode for you with two

old friends of mine, two very smart democratic strategists. We're going to start with one

and then maybe do a little book talk on the back end. But my first guest here is Bacari

Sellers, who I'm sure you've heard of. He's a lawyer, a political commentator, a former

state legislator, a political strategist, host of the Bacari Sellers podcast, a father,

author of two fabulous books, one for grown-ups, my vanishing country, and one for kids who

are your people. Bacari, your CV is going to take up our whole window here. Where do you

find the time, my man? Look, I can tell you that my number one and two job are being a

husband and a father, and both of those were me completely out. Whatever energy I have

left, I try to do other things. The kids' book, I ordered, it is so good

who are your people. I want to get to that at the end if we have just a minute. But we

got to talk a little politics first. And I wasn't planning on starting with this, but

I think given the DOJ response last night, given the fact that you're an actual lawyer,

not just a hack like me, I had to at least get your two cents. These images of the top secret

documents on the floor in Mar-a-Lago, maybe it's not a smoking gun, but the gun's whistling,

something's happening down there. What does your take about where this investigation stands

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