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The Good Fight

James C. Scott on The Perils of State Power

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 31 August 2024

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

In one of his final extended interviews, which was recorded three years before his recent death, the late anthropologist James C. Scott and Yascha Mounk discuss the need to be vigilant about the ways in which states do violence to individuals and societies. James C. Scott was the Sterling professor of political science and anthropology at Yale University. Scott is the author of major works including Seeing Like a State: How Certain Schemes to Improve the Human Condition Have Failed and Against the Grain: A Deep History of the Earliest States. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and James Scott discuss whether we ought to give "two cheers" for anarchism, why the state is here to stay, and the ongoing crisis in Myanmar. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by Jack Shields, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

BAM, picture this! You're watching your favorite artist,

0:03.4

play. Not that artist!

0:05.4

Ha ha, yeah, that's you!

0:08.0

You look down at the red can in your hand, or is it?

0:11.4

No, it's a Pepsi Max.

0:13.0

The COLA over 70% of the UK prefer.

0:16.0

You props prefer it too. Go on, try it.

0:19.0

Pepsi Max. Firstly to see for more.

0:23.0

UK Blind Taste Test with over 54,000 people versus UK's biggest selling full sugarcola.

0:27.6

For verification go to Pepsi.

0:28.9

coke.

0:29.2

At UK slash FAQ.

0:32.0

All of these states that we admire,

0:35.0

mostly Western states,

0:38.0

they have gotten where they've gotten by plundering the resources of the world for industrial growth in a way that

0:47.0

seems completely unsustainable.

0:49.2

So the collateral damage of Western economic growth on resources, the CO2 in the air, forms of bondage.

1:00.3

It's not a pretty picture of successful capitalist development.

1:05.0

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk. Two years ago I had somebody I really admire on this podcast.

1:20.5

James C Scott, one of the most important political scientists and anthropologists of the last 100 years.

1:28.0

James passed away at the age of 87 last month.

1:34.0

And so I thought that this would be a great opportunity

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