James Buchanan
Bad Gays
Huw Lemmey & Ben Miller
4.5 • 934 Ratings
🗓️ 31 March 2020
⏱️ 65 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Badgays, a podcast all about evil and complicated quares in history. |
| 0:20.4 | My name is Hugh Lemmy. I'm a writer and author. |
| 0:22.7 | And I'm Ben Miller, a writer, researcher, and member of the board of the Gay Museum in Berlin. |
| 0:28.2 | Last week we talked about Nikolai Yezov, one of Stalin's henchmen who ended up the victim of a purge. |
| 0:33.9 | Who are we talking about this week, Ben? |
| 0:35.9 | Well, this week we're going to talk about a man who's consistently ranked by historians of the |
| 0:40.2 | United States as one of the worst presidents in the history of the Republic. |
| 0:44.5 | Intriguingly, he may also have been its first gay president. |
| 0:47.9 | More intriguingly, the president he immediately preceded, the much better known and better |
| 0:52.3 | loved Abraham Lincoln, may also have been a little |
| 0:54.8 | bit, you know, and while we can't know exactly what his love-like was like, it is intriguing |
| 1:00.7 | to think about the differences between homosexual love and erotic friendship, and how |
| 1:05.1 | Buchanan's long association with another, let's say, confirmed bachelor may have influenced some of his |
| 1:12.1 | worst decision-making around crucial questions of slavery, the rights of freed slaves, |
| 1:17.4 | and the formation of the reactionary force that would come to me known as the Confederacy. |
| 1:22.7 | On this topic of 19th century male romantic friendship and homosexuality, I want to quote the historian |
| 1:28.4 | Jonathan Ned Katz in his excellent book, Love Stories, Sex Between Men, Before Homosexual. He writes, |
| 1:35.8 | This was the world before the homosexual heterosexual hypothesis, the universe before that great |
| 1:41.9 | sexual divide. Pondering these 19th century tales, I hope that readers will question the assumptions before that great sexual divide. Pondering these 19th century tales, |
| 1:45.7 | I hope that readers will question the assumptions of that time |
| 1:48.6 | and ask of these stories' characters, |
| 1:51.2 | what were their past words for men's sexual and affectionate intimacies with men? |
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