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I was thinking back to my earliest recognition of beauty, female beauty in the world.

And as we've discussed on the show, I was quite young when I first came to be fascinated

by female beauty.

I was, you were a very young heterosexual.

I was right out of the womb.

I was like, that's interesting.

I remember being four or five years old and seeing beauty in the world.

I first remember my mother, our mother, making a big deal about Michelle Pfeiffer.

And I think she was in a movie.

She was in some movie coming out at the time in the early mid 80s, probably Scarface

or Grease II.

And my mother would just make such a big deal about it.

And I, not to blame her, but I think I started connecting Michelle Pfeiffer's face with

an exciting thing.

And then when I got into the world a little bit more, when I was like five years old,

our older brother Damien was in Friday classes.

And there was a girl, she was a year older than me.

She had red hair.

I don't know anything else about her, but I was transfixed by her.

I would want to go with my parents to pick Damien up from Karate in the hopes that I

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