James Baldwin's Fire
Throughline
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4.6 • 16.4K Ratings
🗓️ 29 January 2026
⏱️ 45 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Support for NPR comes from NPR member stations and Eric and Wendy Schmidt through the Schmidt Family Foundation, working toward a healthy, resilient, secure world for all. |
| 0:11.5 | On the web at theshmit.org. |
| 0:14.2 | A quick heads up before we get started. |
| 0:16.5 | This episode contains some strong language, including a racial slur and mention of suicide. |
| 0:28.8 | Until the moment comes, when we, the Americans, we, the American people, are able to accept the fact that I have to accept, for example, that my ancestors are both white and black, |
| 0:42.3 | that on that continent we are trying to forge a new identity for which we need each other. |
| 0:48.3 | Until this moment, there is scarcely any hope for the American dream. |
| 0:53.3 | Because the people who are denied participation in it, by their very presence, will wreck it. |
| 1:01.0 | And if that happens, it's a very grave moment for the West. |
| 1:04.0 | Thank you. Hey, I'm Randt-Ambna Fattah. |
| 1:32.2 | I'm Ramtin-Arablui. |
| 1:34.0 | You may have noticed a quote, making the rounds on social media. |
| 1:37.5 | It goes, not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced. |
| 1:44.0 | Those words were written by James Baldwin, whose voice you heard at the top, in an essay for |
| 1:49.4 | the New York Times published in 1962. |
| 1:52.7 | For many people, it rings as true today as it did then. |
| 1:57.1 | The words have a power and clarity that seem to cut through time and space. |
| 2:02.9 | It also shows how ideas reemerge in times when they seem most needed. |
| 2:07.7 | And actually, that's something we talk about a lot when we develop episodes, historical figures and their ideas. |
| 2:14.3 | They inspire us, challenge our assumptions, and sometimes push us to ask questions we might not otherwise have asked. |
| 2:21.8 | And what better way than to look at the philosophy of James Baldwin, a writer who used the power of |
| 2:28.2 | his words to confront in order to connect, something we can relate to today. |
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