Hi James, hi Andy. How are you? Oh, man, it's wonderful to be here. It's good to be here. Yeah, you know, I have been a fan of yours. I got to know you like everybody

by internet videos. Yes. You walking around Pasadena. Yeah, and Glendale and Hollywood and outside of auditions and just sweating and doing voices. Yes, yes. Yeah. I'm looking probably probably like a crazy person looking insane. Yeah, yeah. I don't have the I don't have the gene that it seems like the guys that are like 10 years behind me have where they just will film anything anywhere. Yeah, like a like a

somebody will plop their phone down and just do a little dance where they're tracing, you know, the outline of their shoulders or something over and over. Yeah, they're really comfortable doing. Yeah, and I have I have a deep, repressed, Christian,

millennial shame about performing about performance of any kind. Yes. You know what I mean? I know exactly what you mean? No, I mean, yeah, no, I have a Midwestern. It's not it's not so much Christian. I mean, and we'll touch on your because you were raised very religious. Yeah, I was I was raised pretty religious. I don't it's not so much Christian thing, but they're definitely is. And I mean, it exists in different places. Like when I worked in New Zealand, I was they have a thing called tall poppy syndrome.

Which is that if you which is which is to say what they call like a ham and cheese sandwich or something like that. No, no, it's what they call poppy means something completely else on the other side of the world. It means people in New Zealand. They're very they're very proud of New Zealanders that make it big on the world stage, but then they immediately said about cutting them down.

Like like destroying them in some way. Because and the notion of tall poppies is that you want all your poppies to grow to a uniform height. And if any of them grow higher than the other poppies. Yeah, you snip their head off. So like the flight of the Concords are not allowed back in the country. I don't what they'll immediately be. I'm sure that I'm sure that within New Zealand. There's like, you know, they have.

Guys are fucking pricks. Yeah, they have a PM for like a week. And it's like, all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. New leader immediately. Get out of here. Feel strong. Get out of here. It feels off. It feels a little off to me. Yeah, yeah. Peter Jackson. He's can't even say he's from there anymore. That guy, the guy that colorizes things out of here. We do know out of here. Yeah, you know, do you know, have you been down there? Because I've never been the accent there. It's like someone from Australia that's trying to annoy you.

It's a more annoying Australian. Yes, I had a radio ad there for a mattress company. And it was, it's, it came on and they said, do you have a bed, bed?

Are you sleeping on a bed, bed, bed, bed, bed, bed? Yeah, somebody told me that the different, that the accent difference is like New Zealanders, Kiwis are like, it's a fission.

Cheaps. Yeah, fission. Cheaps. They say chups. They're chups. I thought I thought I thought it was Australians that were like fission chups.

No, they said they would say chups. I just, I mean, I just remember people saying chups. Well, don't they know that it's fish and chips chips.

And really it's fries. Yeah. Okay. But anyway, oh, we're going all over the place here. Uh, tall poppy syndrome. And you feel that as a midwesterner?

Yes, I feel that same thing. I feel the shame of, uh, we called it the phrase that comes from my child to your own horn, to your own horn.

Yeah, that guy, like anybody, which, you know, to do what we do, there's an inherent ego to saying, everybody in this room, be quiet now. I'm going to stand on this stage.

And I'm the only one talking and all the lights are pointed at me. You be quiet and listen. And it's worth your while to listen. That's, you can't.

See, there's an ego to everyone that does that. There's no thing is a humble performer. No, I mean, I think as a Tennessean, definitely performers, like performing and like the, the sort of the redneck tradition of like, hey, y'all watch this.

Yeah, yeah. That kind of thing. It's definitely not my southerness that is keeping me from boldly tick talking in front of a bunch of people in some bank lobby.

I don't know what it is. I think it's got to be generational. It's got to be generational. It's, it's got to be feeling shut out from a major economic swings. You know what I mean?

I think it's millennial. It's like, well, I'm never going to, you know, I'm never going to pay off any of these debts. I'm never going to know.

Right, right, right. I should just keep my head down and I'm not working for a bank. Yeah, exactly. And it's also like where we, where we were when the internet took over our lives.

The, the, the, I think the people of my generation, the internet was like something that came out and we immediately like had to learn it.

Yeah. And then the, you know, our parents, we still have to, I still have to go look at my dad's phone and be like, just click the, click the button once.

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