Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast.

I'm your host, Tim Miller.

We are taping this Thursday late afternoon.

I have got a funeral in Iowa to go to on Friday.

Much love to my friend Grant.

So, you know, if Donald Trump appoints Judge Box of Wine to be the Deputy Attorney General

or something Friday morning, you'll know why we didn't cover it.

I'm here today.

The first time guest, very excited.

Jamel Bowie, he's a columnist in New York Times opinion section.

He's also the co-host of the podcast, Unclear and Present Danger, and a

prominent figure in my TikTok for you page. TikTok wants us to be friends, Javelle. I know the Chinese,

I think, we're arranging this date. Thank you. Thank you, Chairman Xi. I want to talk to you a little bit about the TikTok stuff at the end. I want to

start just lightly. We have some heavy fare to discuss. And this is actually maybe kind of heavy fare too,

because we have some exciting news from the dystopian capital. Spotify is going to be hosting an

inauguration day, pop-up podcast studio, and a brunch to celebrate the power of podcasts in this election.

So I was just, I was wondering, as two prominent, semi-prominent podcasters,

did you have an invite to that?

I did not receive an invite to this.

If I did, I would pretend like I didn't. I have no desire

to go to the Spotify sponsored podcast brunch. Every word of that sounds like something I want no

part of. And just on, you know, as a little, just cherry on top that it's the, you know,

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