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All The Smoke

Jalen Duren on Detroit’s Bad Boy Revival & Turning Down The Bag

All The Smoke

The Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartPodcasts

Sports, Society & Culture, Basketball

4.77.6K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2026

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Jalen Duren joins ATS Unplugged with Stephen Jackson and Vernon Maxwell to talk Detroit’s Bad Boy revival, the Pistons’ physical identity, and why this young group feels different.

He also opens up about betting on himself after turning down an extension, the summer ahead, Isaiah Stewart, Cade Cunningham, Philly roots, and Detroit practices that sound like real smoke.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:22.0

Guaranteed Human. What's up, world? Welcome back to this edition of Unplugs. Boy, Stack 5. I got the OG Max in here with me, holding it down. Matt somewhere getting to the money as usual. Shout out to my brother. Today, man, we got a dope show, man. We got one of the best big man in the league. Absolutely. The anchor of the number one seed in the east.

0:24.4

Big fella Jalen Durham, man.

0:34.5

Welcome to the show, one plug, man. Thanks for coming on. How you doing, bro? Good, man, I'm good. Thanks for having me. Yes, sir. Start it up, man. we're going to call you JD because I know that's what our

0:36.0

crew call you over there in Detroit, man.

0:38.3

Big JD.

0:39.5

So we're going to call you JD.

0:40.5

Yeah, first Detroit, man, Big JD.

0:39.5

So we're going to call you JD.

0:40.5

Man, first year all-star.

0:42.3

Congrats on that, man.

0:43.6

20 points a game.

0:45.3

11 rebounds by shooting 65% from the field.

0:48.3

Team won 60 games for the third time in Piston history.

0:52.2

Two years ago, y'all lost 28 games and now y'all the number one seed heading to the playoffs in the East. Just tell me quickly, just the change and the culture change that y'all were able to bring and shift over there in Detroit. Yeah, man, it's been great. I think I always get the most credit to J.B. Yes. What he's been able to do since he's came in and kind of set like a standard and the expectation to like how he wants us to play and what he wants to see every night. We just try to, you know, apply that to the best of our abilities, man. We try to go out there and exceed his expectation and play to our standard.

1:28.1

Yeah, shout out.

1:48.6

Shout out coach, J.B. He's somebody that I never got a chance to play for, but he was somebody that always talked to him, was always solid during our career. He just a real, he wanted a real one, a rare one at that. And it's good to see him having, it's good to see him having success. y'all y y'all kind of remind us of the 90s, 2000 pisses, man, kind of our, Erica, big,

1:49.6

uh, physical.

1:51.1

Don't take no shit.

1:54.3

Does that mindset come from just that Detroit field?

1:56.8

Or that's, uh, that's something that y'all brought back on your own?

1:57.3

Yeah.

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