Hey everyone. I want to share something special with you today. It is the podcast you can turn to

every day to help uncomplicate the news and better understand what's really going on in our world.

On Point is a rare public space where you can hear nuanced explorations of complex topics live and in real

time.

Host Magna Chakrabarti leads provocative conversations that help make sense of the world with urgency, timeliness, and depth.

Every episode is a deeply researched, beautifully produced hour.

Listeners will learn, be challenged, and have some fun as well.

In this episode, Magna talks to Jake Sullivan,

who's been working to shape policy for the United States for much of the 21st century.

Sullivan led major foreign policy initiatives for President Barack Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and most recently, President Joe Biden as National Security Advisor. With President Donald Trump back in the White House,

Magna asks Sullivan about the U.S. role in major foreign policy challenges,

including the war in Ukraine, the war in Gaza,

and what's at stake as Trump changes the direction of the U.S. and our standing in the world.

Plus, he speaks candidly about the personal burden of the weightiest decisions.

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This in. This is on point.

I'm Megna Chakrabardi.

From 2021 to 2025, Jake Sullivan served as President Joe Biden's U.S. National Security Advisor.

He'd previously served in the Obama administration, both in the White House and as deputy chief of staff to then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

As Biden's national security advisor, Sullivan influenced U.S. response to some of the most globally significant conflicts in recent memory,

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