because we're very vulnerable at the very beginning of our lives.

When something negative happens, we begin to react to it and when things are quite negative,

we develop strategies to minimize the harm of those things.

And slowly, little by little, we develop ideas and thoughts and expectancies and experiences to protect ourselves from the world, especially

the negative consequences.

And of course we can think of that as our ego or our sense of self develops where we need to be careful about this and you know watch out for this and you know etc.

And in my mind what happens is this begins to cover over that initial energetic, curious sense of self.

It doesn't get rid of it, it doesn't transform it, it simply covers over like a mask. You know, we put a

mask of the ego and it dis filters how we see the world, right, and how we

respond to it.

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Jamie, welcome to the unmistakable Creative.

Thanks so much for taking the time to join us.

Thank you. Happy to be here.

Yeah, it is my pleasure to have you here.

So you have a new book out called Controlling Mental Chaos,

which I think just right when I read the title I thought yeah I think every one of us has a little bit of mental

Chaos going on in our lives just as a natural byproduct the world that was extremely intrigued

But before we get into the book and your work I wanted to start by asking what did your parents do for work and how did that end up shaping and influencing the choices that you've ended up with your life and your sir.

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