Once in the New York Times podcast, you are ten years and thirty minutes of music news

and criticism I am your host, John Caravanica.

Often I say I want art money. It's true. That's J ball and you're probably in one of two camps

right now. You are probably extraordinarily excited to hear a J ball record, certainly in the year

of our Lord 2023 or maybe you are younger and thinking, what is this obscure artist? I learned

something this week, which is that the J ball demographic definitely skews a little bit older

and it cleaves pretty cleanly. It tells me what generation of internet obsession you belong to,

your relationship to J ball. So we are going to talk about J ball this week, not because there's no

music because, uh, like obviously there's not any new music, but because J ball has emerged from

the shadows and performed a few shows recently. He played a Coachella both weekends, unlike Frank

Goshen. And he played two shows in New York. I went the first night on Tuesday and knockdown

center. Lindsey Zola is who is here when Brooklyn steel on Wednesday. We probably should have done

what we did for Harry Styles to be honest. Yeah. I can't believe we didn't think of that first.

We should have thought of that before. So we are going to talk today about the J ball phenomenon,

the backstory and of course what it was like to be in the room watching a frankly a seemingly

very uncomfortable man perform undeniable music. Later in the show, Gia Tolentino, who was also

there on Tuesday, Gia is going to come through and chat a little bit about the mystique of J ball.

Before we get into it, I do want to say there are some t-shirts left. I'm sort of assuming most

people want a t-shirt have a t-shirt by now. But if you don't, we have t-shirts left, but we now have

stickers. There are pop cast stickers. So if you very simply want to put a pop cast sticker on your

dirt bike, if you want to put it on your laptop, if you want to be like one of those folks who

puts a supreme sticker, like on the bumper of their car, sort of like a bumper sticker,

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