Jagganath Panda: “India First”, Chinese Revisionism, & Power Politics in the Indo-Pacific
Geopolitics & Empire
Geopolitics & Empire
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🗓️ 15 July 2021
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
Dr. Jagganath Panda discusses the key drivers of geopolitics and power politics between India, Pakistan, and China in the Indo-Pacific. He comments on PM Modi’s “India First” policies, Japan’s strategy, and the promises of the Quad or Quad Plus, which some have referred to as an Asian NATO. He covers Chinese ‘influence operations’, the threat of China’s revisionist policies, and gives his take on how successful Belt & Road has been and whether the West’s ‘Blue Dot Network’ or ‘B3W’ is a viable competitor. Finally, he gives his thoughts on how bumpy the New Cold War with China might get militarily over the next decade.
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Show Notes
Japan’s new defense white paper sharpens aim at China https://asiatimes.com/2021/07/japans-new-defense-white-paper-sharpens-aim-at-china
What China’s Communist Party Centenary Means for India https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/what-china%E2%80%99s-communist-party-centenary-means-india-188821
Ties that bind: Geopolitics, not socialism, underpin North Korea-China alliance https://www.nknews.org/2021/06/ties-that-bind-geopolitics-not-socialism-underpin-north-korea-china-alliance
India-China Relations to Stay Contrarian in 2021 https://southasianvoices.org/india-china-relations-to-stay-contrarian-in-2021
Websites
Website https://idsa.in/profile/jppanda
Twitter https://twitter.com/jppjagannath1
About Dr. Jagganath P. Panda
Dr. Jagannath Panda is a Research Fellow and Coordinator of the East Asia Centre at MP-IDSA, New Delhi. He joined MP-IDSA in 2006.
Dr. Panda is in charge of East Asia Centre’s academic and administrative activities, including Track-II and Track-1.5 dialogues with Chinese, Japanese and Korean think-tanks/institutes. He is a recipient of the V. K. Krishna Menon Memorial Gold Medal (2000) from the Indian Society of International Law & Diplomacy in New Delhi.
Dr. Panda is the Series Editor for Routledge Studies on Think Asia.
He is the author of the book India-China Relations: Politics of Resources, Identity and Authority in a Multipolar World Order (Routledge: 2017). He is also the author of the book China’s Path to Power: Party, Military and the Politics of State Transition (Pentagon Press: 2010). Dr. Panda has also edited a number of books to his credit. Most recently, he has published an edited volume Scaling India-Japan Cooperation in Indo-Pacific and Beyond 2025: Connectivity, Corridors and Contours (KW Publishing Ltd. 2019), and The Korean Peninsula and Indo-Pacific Power Politics: Status Security at Stake (Routledge, 2020).
Dr. Panda is a Member of the Editorial Board of the Journal of Asian Public Policy(Routledge). Dr. Panda is the first South Asian scholar to receive the prestigious East Asia Institute’s (EAI) fellowship. Most recently, he was a Unification Fellow of the Ministry of Unification, Republic of Korea (RoK), Korea Foundation Fellow (2018-19) and Japan Foundation Fellow (2018-19).
Dr. Panda has also received a number of prestigious fellowships such as the STINT Asia Fellowship from Sweden, Carole Weinstein Fellowship from the University of Richmond, Virginia, USA; National Science Council (NSC) Visiting Professorship from Taiwan; Visiting Scholar (2012) at University of Illinois (Urbana-Champaign), USA and Visiting Fellowship from the Shanghai Institute of International Studies (SIIS) in Shanghai, China.
He has published in leading peer-reviewed journals like Journal of Indo-Pacific Affairs, Journal of Asian Public Policy (Routledge), Journal of Asian and African Studies (Sage), Asian Perspective (Lynne Reiner: SSCI), Journal of Contemporary China (Routledge: SSCI), Georgetown Journal of Asian Affairs (Georgetown), Strategic Analysis (Routledge), China Report (Sage), Indian Foreign Affairs Journal (MD Publication), Portuguese Journal of International Affairs (Euro Press) etc.
He obtained his doctorate (PhD) from the Centre for East Asian Studies (CEAS), School of International Studies (SIS), Jawaharlal Nehru University in 2007. He received a Master in Philosophy (MPhil) from the Department of Chinese & Japanese Studies (now East Asian studies) and studied Master of Arts (MA) at the Department of Political Science, University of Delhi.
*Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Geopolitics and Empire is joined by Dr. Jagannath Panda, who is a research fellow and coordinator of the East Asia Center at the Manohar Parikar Institute for Defense Studies and analyses in New Delhi. |
| 0:12.1 | He's the author of many books publications and the recipient of a number of prestigious fellowships. |
| 0:17.0 | We'll be discussing the geopolitics of India, China, the U.S. and Indo-Pacific. |
| 0:21.7 | Dr. Panda, thank you for taking the time to join the podcast and welcome. |
| 0:26.5 | Thank you, Rovi. |
| 0:27.7 | It's a pleasure to talk into you and thank you very much for your invitation. |
| 0:32.2 | All right. |
| 0:32.8 | Now, I try to interview an expert on India and the Indo-Pacific every once in a while. |
| 0:37.3 | And I think you're one of my new favorites. I was going through your Twitter feed, which is an amazing. I try to interview an expert on India and the Indo-Pacific every once in a while. |
| 0:39.4 | And I think you're one of my new favorites. |
| 0:43.7 | I was going through your Twitter feed, which is an amazing resource and your publications as of late, and they're really good. |
| 0:48.5 | And so perhaps maybe just to set some context, could you give us perhaps a brief |
| 0:52.2 | layout of what India's key challenges and |
| 0:55.6 | ambitions are in the global geopolitical scheme of things at the moment? |
| 1:00.5 | I think there are a number of challenges as far as India is concerned in the Indo-Pacific. |
| 1:06.0 | We have to see from every country's domestic point of view. I think the biggest challenge at this moment |
| 1:12.4 | in India is how to sustain its economic growth and how to put its domestic constituency in |
| 1:19.1 | order trying to have a much more stable and effective governance process. And I think that is key |
| 1:26.4 | to any nation's governance and any nation's rights. And I think that is key to any nation's governance |
| 1:28.6 | and any nation's rights. |
| 1:30.4 | And India is no exception to that effect. |
| 1:33.4 | But while saying that, I think if we try to link it |
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