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🗓️ 13 May 2022
⏱️ 112 minutes
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0:00.0 | Welcome to the Stelling Pod with me, James Stelling Pod, and I know I always am excited |
0:20.0 | about this big special guest, but I really, really am. I'm delighted to introduce you |
0:25.4 | to Colonel Jacques Boul from a former intelligence officer in Switzerland, |
0:33.4 | an intelligence officer with an extraordinary rich and varied career in many of the world's |
0:41.4 | conflict zones. And I'm hoping that Colonel Boul is going to explain to me today what's |
0:46.6 | really happening in Ukraine. You're an expert on Russia and on Putin, among other things, |
0:55.3 | just tell us a bit more about yourself. I mean, I think most listeners will think of Switzerland |
1:00.6 | as being a kind of a neutral party in geopolitical affairs. Do you have a dog in this fight at all |
1:09.3 | or are you completely neutral? Well, we are completely neutral, but you have to remember that |
1:15.2 | neutrality was imposed to Switzerland in the early 19th century just after the defeat of Napoleon. |
1:23.6 | And Switzerland has since then the obligation to prevent any misuse of its territory. |
1:29.4 | That's why Switzerland has an army and a quite strong one, actually. So the military service |
1:39.8 | used to be compulsory. I think it's still. I'm not living in Switzerland now. I'm living in |
1:44.7 | Brussels, but the military service is compulsory. And I, of course, we add to the normal training, |
1:55.3 | normal military training, training abroad. I was trained in the UK, for instance, |
2:03.4 | in intelligence as an example. But Switzerland is an army and very proud of its army, in fact. |
2:14.2 | And every Swiss is a military. I am a general staff officer. That means that I've been trained |
2:22.3 | in all the specialty of a staff, logistics, operation, air operation, you name it. And usually |
2:33.0 | in Switzerland, that's the German system. When you choose a general, you take a general staff |
2:39.3 | officer. It's the same system as we have in, they have in Russia, for instance. |
2:46.9 | The general staff is the place where you have the people with more senior experience in staff |
2:55.7 | work, in military planning, operation planning. But after my time in intelligence, in strategic |
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